Did anyone watch the premiere of Jada Pinkett Smith's new show Hawthorne on TNT last Tuesday night? I was looking forward to it being more realistic than Nurse Jackie, but there are still some stereotypes (male nurse who wishes he was a doctor, nurse who does sexual favors for her patients). What did you guys think?
Brittany
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June 25th, 2009 at 10:14 am
I did see the first show. It’s just not something I would watch. I was/am such a “Grey’s” ophile and watched ER for so many years, I can’t get into the new shows. I don’t think they are of such good quality as the afore mentioned. Maybe I just don’t think nurses really behave the way they are being portrayed. I could be clueless about that.
June 25th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Did see both, so far …who wrote this stuff…. the writer needs to go and work in a real hospital for awhile, nurses do not act like that and a Nursing CEO does NOT have much patient interaction…she is NOT A STAFF NURSE…and the relationships with CEO of nursing and her staff is only on rounds once a month
or if there is an award to be given…mostley they are responsive for the rules and mission statement for the hospital and other duties, but not direct patient care more with situations on units of the hospital, that gets reported to her…You are taking Nurse CEO/SUPERSIVOR/STAFF NURSE all in one …not REAL.
The show is not something I will keep watching does not reflect Nursing or a Nurse of today…
Re-think your next episodes.
June 25th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
The incident in the first episode with the insulin shot that the nurse questioned and then gave anyway kind of made me uneasy…we have always been taught that you don’t give it if you think the order is incorrect… the second episode wasn’t all that great… I personally don’t think it will last a second season but we shall see…
June 26th, 2009 at 10:55 am
its ok……but my parents are both doctors and what i’ve actually seen what goes on in the hospital does not line up with the show. i’m not saying the show should be totally realistic ….because to many people, that wouldn’t be interesting. what i’m saying is that although nurses often do clash with doctors (1st episode) usually nurses do not do “favors” for their patients. so if they maybe make some changes, the show will be alright. Also if she is the head nurse she would never have that much contact with pantients, and would never be ARRESTED for not having her badge with her. i’ve seen people go into a hospital for more than 2 days with out their badges and none of them came out in handcuffs.
July 2nd, 2009 at 5:30 am
She has way too much patient interaction, and she goes back and forth between being a nurse advocate and playing “dumb nurse” (in the scene where they are debating about getting a head CT and she says “well, you are the doctor.”) How silly. I have never had to ask a physician permission to order a head CT.
I am interested to see how the show develops… between this and Nurse Jackie there is a lot of renewed interest in nursing. We sure need it!
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Is it just me, or has no one seen a patient who got TOO much insulin go into hyperglycemia? I’ve always seen hypoglycemia happen…
July 4th, 2009 at 5:02 am
Hello,
Okay, stop hating on Hawthorne and look at the underline issues one may have with the show.
Let’s be real here for a moment and be honest at least to you.
There is a different of style of nursing being display by RN Hawthrone than the traditional nursing and many are not use to the aggressiveness.
The percentage of Afro-American Nurse Managers is tiny to none compare to other ethnicity. Have any of you experience working with an Afro-American Nurse Manager? If so, was she like Hawthrone?
Why do you think a Nurse Manager must stay in the traditional sterotype role (kissing butt) and crapping on her nurses?
Not all hospital is the same. Not everyone can work in an inter-city hospital, a drug, gang, low-socioeconomically and multi-culture area.
The officers in some inner city hospitals will not allowed her passed through w/o a badge regardless of if she was the president of the hospital. I know one hospital in Philadelphia; the officers will arrest you on the spot and take you to the round house for booking. Then you can tell your story five days later at the hearing and no phone call until your hearing. I do know it is true and it’s in the middle of hell as one would say.
My observations have been that many nurses are highly critical of other nurses, nurse managers, or any type of nurses. I wonder why are nurses so critical of each other and where did they receive a degree to be a nurse critic?
I do not get it at all. We are not perfect and why do we act like we are?
We make mistakes and the outcome varies from fatal to nothing.
Are the fears of nursing outweigh our intelligence of being human and realistic?
If we were so intelligent than why are we being sold for less than what we are worth by our own nursing boards? Why are we not protected by the nursing boards but they are asking us to complain about Nurse Jackie and Nurse Hawthrone? Go Figure!
We are prosecuted by our own nursing board who protects the public from harm by the nurses. Physicians and Hospitals uses nurses as escape goats in lawsuits. We do not critize them, do we? Nope, not at all just own (nurses )lol….what a joke!
So, please someone explain to me why?
July 9th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
I thought they would strive for accuracy, but… that’s television. Needless to say, I was disappointed. A nurse doing sexual favors would be so unemployed and unlicensed. Medications are not kept in huge closets, but in the pharmacy, except for what’s kept in a locked cart and no nurse would ever be working in a tank top and shorts. Nurses do advocate for patients but not to the point of total anarchy. Hypokalemic paralysis in Asians occurs only with hyperthyroidism. It’s not what I was hoping. Don’t know why I expected an accurate depiction.
July 11th, 2009 at 10:37 am
I’s fantasy, t.v. like what buttons said, If the world would know what work loads we have, threats about losing our license, every minute. No one would watch. House is not real either,
July 12th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
It’s not real. But then again I detest fantasy shows period. To the writer that asks why are nurses so critical of other nurses? Because some of us truly care about patients and families. We can’t stand it when some flake (that you wonder how the heck they got through nursing school) is working alongside you and they are useless, lazy, dumg or terribly unmotivated. I worry because someday I may just be that poor patient under the care of the “flake.” What am I saying??? I have been the very ill patient under the care of some total flakes that nearly killed me!!! I’ve met incompetence at the other end. So is this critizing? Perhaps. But people’s lives and well-being are at stake. It is a big deal. I’ve stayed in nursing for the mere fact that I really care about people and I don’t much like dumb nurses. There I said it!
July 13th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Suki,
“I don’t much like dumb nurses” I do not believe a nurse is dumb
It amazes me, Nurses are not perfect and not above all. Nurses are human and possess strengths and weakness.
I am a nurse and I have stengths and weakness. As a nurse, I am not able to work in every speciality for one reason or another.
Does this make me a Dumb, Flake, useless, lazy, or terribly unmotivated nurse? No, in my eyes and no, to those patients who had me as a nurse.
Every Nurse will be able work in a speciality that displays his/her strengths.
Name one nurse who is excellant in every speciality.
Florence was not great in all specialities.
Robots will be taking care of us
July 17th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
I don not know ANY Nurse Exec who has a clue about what goes on in a hospital or has retained ANY caring for patients or staff. Remember, the Association of Nurse Executives (the professional organization for hopitsl nurse CEOs) is a subsidiary of the American HOSPITAL Association- Nurse Execs serve the hospital org NOT nursing or patients. So I am really annoyed by Hawthorne but it is not as bad as, perhaps, as shows that show nurses as drug abusing sex addicts
July 23rd, 2009 at 11:39 am
I watched another episode last night…. how come the same nurses work in the ED, on the floor and also take patients to OR? I have never even seen our chief nurse exec down in the ED. I sure know she does not carry her stethoscope around to listen to the hearts of peds patients.
I just gave up and started watching the show as a consumer, not a nurse.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:37 am
The problem with Hawthorne, as I see it, is that the writting is bad, the plot is bad and that makes for bad acting. I’m not even taking into account the fact that the nursing CEO runs from floor to floor taking care of patients, the same staff can be found on all floors, and the medical conditions (and there by the diagnosis) are completely laughable (if they even hint at being realistic!)
Nurse Jackie is a better written, better acted show but it portrays nursing in a very poor light between the sex and drug addictions.
I had high hopes for both shows from the trailers, and have been extremely dissapointed in both.
August 10th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Unlike many of the folks posting comments, I am not a nurse. And, I am not in the medical profession. However, I have been to a hospital and that is enough experience to realize Hawthorne RN is ridiculous. In the episode I watched, Hawthorne followed a patient home and spied through the window of the door. Then, she broke into the home! Regarding race, there is a thread of racism in the show, on the part of the inept writers. There was a patient with stereotypical views of ethnicity; instead of the nurses using professional mannerisms and being inspirational, they gossiped like hens behind the patient’s back and were openly hostile and belittling to the customer (to the show’s writers: in a hospital, the patient is the customer). Also, Jada Pinkett Smith canNOT act. Her husband, Will Smith, is a great actor. Will Smith may currently be the best and most underacknowledged actor. If you doubt me, watch Six Degrees of Separation; he should have won an Oscar. However, a marriage to Will Smith does not mean that one can act.
August 11th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
I too had high hopes about a show about nurses, but this has fallen so far short of any realism that it does more damage than good.
Buttons, you sound like a nurse who really does care. But please see the real issues here: no one is getting on the CNO being black or aggressive; this we can all handle. It’s great to see a supervisor actually try to stick up for her nurses, and cares about them…. even though this representation of the CNO is so totally unreal.
Nor was the previous poster who mentioned “dumb nurses” getting on anyone about not being able to do all areas of nursing. She was annoyed and hurt at those who don’t carry their share of the load and really don’t care about their patients; we’ve all seen nurses like that. (sadly, i and my loved ones too have been victims of nurses like that.)
It’s the poor writing; inaccurate representations of what goes on; just plain wrong words, actions, clothing, and equipment use; ridiculous stereotypes … all the stuff the previous posters have already noted.
The writers have obviously not spent much time in a real ER or hospital. It’s a shame they think they have to resort to cliches to make a dramatic show. Such a waste of an opportunity to to show the excellent critical work most nurses REALLY DO.
(i actually think Jada is the best actress on this show; she expresses the complexity of her character’s life roles really well. All these actors/ actresses just are having to put up with pitiful writing.)
June 26th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Producers need to be more vigilant. The scene when the detective greets the new husband shows blood on the husband’s scrubs. When they walk in the ER his scrubs are clean. OOOPPPSSS
July 14th, 2011 at 11:28 am
I love the show. Jada can act, period (and there are some good performances by some of the others too). Frankly, I would like to see a two-hour episode every now and then. I prefer Hawthorne to some of the garbage on other networks. What I love about Christina is that she cares about her patients . . . something the world could use a lot more of, caring.
July 20th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
I have watched this show since the very first episode and looked forward to it. I realize it is just a show but what I enjoyed was the work in the hospital. Last night’s show just really put me off. I thought it was over the top and moved the show to the realm of nightime soap. Not sure they didn’t lose a loyal viewer last night.
July 21st, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Totally unrealistic; I am an RN in a level 1 trauma center and I manage the OR, PACU and OPS
None of this bunk happens in real life! Not doing the nursing profession a bit of good
July 26th, 2011 at 2:37 am
First season Christina and the doctor were so in love that they couldn’t wait to be together and finally marry and totally bad twist.
Not sure if I will continue to watch. Put Marc in jail and let the true story start over with her back in the hospital.